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	<title>Comments on: Raising The Bar?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Hundermark</title>
		<link>http://www.managingagile.com/responding-change/software-craftmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hundermark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you raised the question, Charl.

Of the 12 &quot;Principles behind the Agile Manifesto&quot;, at least 3 are directly focussed on crafting quality software:

&quot;Continuous attention to technical excellence and good design enhances agility.

&quot;Simplicity--the art of maximizing the amount of work not done--is essential.

&quot;The best architectures, requirements, and designs emerge from self-organizing teams.&quot;

We need to focus our energy on crafting better software better rather than crafting new manifestos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you raised the question, Charl.</p>
<p>Of the 12 &#8220;Principles behind the Agile Manifesto&#8221;, at least 3 are directly focussed on crafting quality software:</p>
<p>&#8220;Continuous attention to technical excellence and good design enhances agility.</p>
<p>&#8220;Simplicity&#8211;the art of maximizing the amount of work not done&#8211;is essential.</p>
<p>&#8220;The best architectures, requirements, and designs emerge from self-organizing teams.&#8221;</p>
<p>We need to focus our energy on crafting better software better rather than crafting new manifestos.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck van der Linden</title>
		<link>http://www.managingagile.com/responding-change/software-craftmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck van der Linden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the things listed seem to stem FROM the items in the existing agile manifesto, not the other way around

to me &#039;working software&#039; means not only that it functions, but that it &#039;works&#039; for the customer.  That means that if what the customer needed was just a rapid prototype to get feedback, that it&#039;s not overengineered.  or if it&#039;s production quality code that works for the long haul that it&#039;s maintainable and enhanceable.   If that&#039;s the case, then I&#039;d say it&#039;s likly been built with a level of craftsmanship

If you succesfully respond to change are you not adding value (or preventing the loss of value) and if not, how exactly are you measuring success? 

If you value individuals and interactions, are you not naturally part of a larger community and interacting with your peers?

If you are succesful at collaborating with your customer have you not created a productive partnership?

I appreciate the intent also, but I think they&#039;ve mixed up cause and effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the things listed seem to stem FROM the items in the existing agile manifesto, not the other way around</p>
<p>to me &#8216;working software&#8217; means not only that it functions, but that it &#8216;works&#8217; for the customer.  That means that if what the customer needed was just a rapid prototype to get feedback, that it&#8217;s not overengineered.  or if it&#8217;s production quality code that works for the long haul that it&#8217;s maintainable and enhanceable.   If that&#8217;s the case, then I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s likly been built with a level of craftsmanship</p>
<p>If you succesfully respond to change are you not adding value (or preventing the loss of value) and if not, how exactly are you measuring success? </p>
<p>If you value individuals and interactions, are you not naturally part of a larger community and interacting with your peers?</p>
<p>If you are succesful at collaborating with your customer have you not created a productive partnership?</p>
<p>I appreciate the intent also, but I think they&#8217;ve mixed up cause and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven A. Lowe</title>
		<link>http://www.managingagile.com/responding-change/software-craftmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven A. Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bob that the new manifesto reads like a marketing screed, but I don&#039;t immediately see how to make the language more specific while keeping it concise. Signed it anyway because I agree with the intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bob that the new manifesto reads like a marketing screed, but I don&#8217;t immediately see how to make the language more specific while keeping it concise. Signed it anyway because I agree with the intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob MacNeal</title>
		<link>http://www.managingagile.com/responding-change/software-craftmanship/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob MacNeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There’s not a lot of mental traction offered up by platitudes like &quot;steadily added value&quot; or &quot;productive partnerships&quot;. Nonetheless I signed The Manifesto for Software Craftsmanship because I agree with the intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s not a lot of mental traction offered up by platitudes like &#8220;steadily added value&#8221; or &#8220;productive partnerships&#8221;. Nonetheless I signed The Manifesto for Software Craftsmanship because I agree with the intent.</p>
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